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	<title>Comments on: Shion + XMPP = Win</title>
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		<title>By: Chris J. Karr</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris J. Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One correction to the comment above - Shion.framework is GPL licensed, not BSD licensed. I&#039;m getting my projects and licensing mixed up. :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction to the comment above &#8211; Shion.framework is GPL licensed, not BSD licensed. I&#8217;m getting my projects and licensing mixed up. :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Chris J. Karr</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris J. Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kael, there are no immediate plans to port Shion to other platforms until the Mac port becomes sufficiently financially viable that I can indulge in such a luxury. :-)

That said, I have been releasing the Shion framework (that Shion.app is built upon) as open source for some time now. If you are interested in a port to your platform, you can help move the project along by helping me port that framework to your chosen platform. (The main challenge is adapting the Mac OS X IOKit USB &amp; serial port calls to use Linux&#039;s HID functions.) 

Once I have a Linux-native port of the Shion framework, a full port should be possible using GNUStep. I would need to find a way to license Shion on Linux (Shion.framework is BSD-licensed, Shion.app is proprietary), but that shouldn&#039;t be an issue.

Until all of these pieces fall into place (and please note that I&#039;m not promising a Linux port quite yet), you might be interested in checking out some of the existing HA software on the Linux platform such as Mr. House:

http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kael, there are no immediate plans to port Shion to other platforms until the Mac port becomes sufficiently financially viable that I can indulge in such a luxury. :-)</p>
<p>That said, I have been releasing the Shion framework (that Shion.app is built upon) as open source for some time now. If you are interested in a port to your platform, you can help move the project along by helping me port that framework to your chosen platform. (The main challenge is adapting the Mac OS X IOKit USB &#038; serial port calls to use Linux&#8217;s HID functions.) </p>
<p>Once I have a Linux-native port of the Shion framework, a full port should be possible using GNUStep. I would need to find a way to license Shion on Linux (Shion.framework is BSD-licensed, Shion.app is proprietary), but that shouldn&#8217;t be an issue.</p>
<p>Until all of these pieces fall into place (and please note that I&#8217;m not promising a Linux port quite yet), you might be interested in checking out some of the existing HA software on the Linux platform such as Mr. House:</p>
<p><a href="http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kael</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>kael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any chance we could run Shion on Linux/Ubuntu ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any chance we could run Shion on Linux/Ubuntu ?</p>
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		<title>By: Nÿco</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Nÿco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Great! ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Chris J. Karr</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris J. Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nÿco, what you suggest is part of the ultimate plan, but I started with the old-fashioned command line as a starting point (this work is far from complete). What I currently have in mind are two basic interfaces that use the XMPP channel: a natural language interface (more flexible than the above example) for folks using vanilla XMPP clients, and a more robustly-defined asynchronous XML protocol that uses something like ad-hoc commands for clients and libraries that implement the extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nÿco, what you suggest is part of the ultimate plan, but I started with the old-fashioned command line as a starting point (this work is far from complete). What I currently have in mind are two basic interfaces that use the XMPP channel: a natural language interface (more flexible than the above example) for folks using vanilla XMPP clients, and a more robustly-defined asynchronous XML protocol that uses something like ad-hoc commands for clients and libraries that implement the extension.</p>
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		<title>By: Nÿco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nÿco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use &#039;Ad-Hoc Commands&#039; instead of the old commandline?
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0050.html
Thus you could have a list of devices in your roster, and just right-click on them, select the command, fill-in the dialog with specific parameters, and send the command.
It is so much more user-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use &#8216;Ad-Hoc Commands&#8217; instead of the old commandline?<br />
<a href="http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0050.html" rel="nofollow">http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0050.html</a><br />
Thus you could have a list of devices in your roster, and just right-click on them, select the command, fill-in the dialog with specific parameters, and send the command.<br />
It is so much more user-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.audacious-software.com/weblog/2009/07/shion-xmpp-win/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic development, Chris! Shion just keeps getting better and better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic development, Chris! Shion just keeps getting better and better.</p>
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